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Could Fourth Ave. SEPTA Car Murder Have Been Avoided?

July 14th, 2008 · 5 Comments

We posted about the SEPTA car on Fourth Avenue next to the Lyceum in Park Slope on Friday. It’s an odd landmark that is currently being hacked up, but it could have been saved according to GL readers. On Friday, we had a sad photo of the car being ripped apart in preparation for a trip to the scrap yard. Earlier, Brownstoner had reported that a 10-story building was going on the property. There have been long standing reports of deep acrimony over development of the property. One GL reader noted, interestingly, that the SEPTA car was supposed to go to Lancaster, Pa to be put back in service rather than being cut up as scrap. Our reader writes: “This car was supposed to join its sisters in Lancaster PA for continued service. As seen in other Brownstoner posts earlier this month, the heated legal disputes between the parties involved appear to have cost 2739 its life. Similar situation to the eleven BNY trolleys that were scrapped by the city in 2005.” Another reader writes, generally, of refurbishment of such old cars and brings up the ones in Red Hook behind the Fairway:

Any number of trolley car museums would have taken this car for restoration and use as an operating attraction. The PCC cars, first developed in Brooklyn in the 1930’s by the Brooklyn Rapid Transit (a division of the BMT Lines) trolley company, as a project to restore U. S. transit companies during the Depression, were the best streetcars ever designed in the history of electric rail transportation. They still serve in many U. S. and foreign cities (in modernized form), and are the prototype for the Light Rail Vehicles now being used on urban transit systems worldwide. It is a total disgrace that this former Philadelphia car, a city where similar rebuilt PCCs are operating today in revenue service, has been sent to the junkyard. Can the other cars over in Red Hook be saved? They were part of the Brooklyn Historic Railway project that folded a few years ago, and are sitting outside a warehouse on Van Brunt St.

We quite taken by the story, both because it represents the destruction of another quirky Brooklyn landmark, but because it could have clearly been saved if personal bitterness and the drive to develop hadn’t won the day.

Tags: Park Slope

5 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Phil // Jul 14, 2008 at 9:36 am

    I don’t think I care about this anymore. . . If you want to see more SEPTA cars, go to Philly. They’ve got a lot of them there. But then you got to go to Philadelphia and you know what W.C. Fields said about that place. . .

  • 2 Quit biting our style, Brooklyn :: The Clog :: Blog Archive :: Philadelphia City Paper :: Philadelphia Arts, Restaurants, Music, Movies, Jobs, Classifieds, Blogs // Jul 14, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    […] A retired SEPTA trolley car had gone off to greener pasture to live in a vacant lot on Fourth Avenue in Park Slope, BK. All would have been fine for ol’ 2739 if the lot in where it resided hadn’t just been sold to a developer in the ever-gentrifying borough. Rather than sell the trolley so it could live out its days in a sparsely attended transportation museum, the city instead decided to simply throw it away.  […]

  • 3 DW // Jul 14, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Scrap metal is going for high rates these days.
    Glad they are in the process of getting rid of that eyesore.
    Those rusting cars around Fairway should be next.
    And if you want to save them, hit up your trust fund or hedge fund proceeds … government money’s gonna be scarce for the next few years.

  • 4 Kevin Walsh // Jul 14, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    They were/are historic keepsakes and should be saved.

    http://www.forgotten-ny.com

  • 5 John // Jul 14, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    “Saving” this trolley is one of the silliest things I’ve ever read on here! I live around the corner from this site and that rusty trolley was a piece of junk and a total eyesore. Why it was ever allowed to rot there in the first place? I wasn’t aware that lot was zoned “Junkyard.”

    I go to Philly all the time and there are plenty of these old trolleys still in use. If you want to see an old trolley, head on down and buy yourself a token and hop aboard. If someone takes a B63 bus after it is retired and parks it in some vacant lot in North Philly, subjecting the locals to years of watching it rust, is that thing suddenly a landmark too?